Paratopia 095: Nick Redfern Returns!

Author/Investigator Nick Redfern returns to discuss the Collins Elite--a clandestine government think tank that has spent decades investigating UFOs and abductions, as documented in Nick's book, Final Events. What makes them particularly interesting is their conclusion: we're not dealing with aliens, we're dealing with demons. You will find out exactly how they came to this frightening conclusion and learn details not available in the book.

Then, The Jeff & The Jer use this as a springboard for the type of deep afterchat you won't hear anywhere else!