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The Our Undoing Radio family of podcasts includes the flagship show, Paratopia, Paratopia Live, Paratopia Oculus, Paranormal Waypoint, and Wise Ask.
The Our Undoing Radio family of podcasts includes the flagship show, Paratopia, Paratopia Live, Paratopia Oculus, Paranormal Waypoint, and Wise Ask.
Episodes

Mar 4, 2022
Paratopia 028: The Georgia Guidestones
Mar 4, 2022
Mar 4, 2022
2hr 12 min
Dubbed by Wired Magazine as, "The strangest monument in America," the Georgia Guidestones have remained a mystery since their construction in 1980. In this episode, The Jeff & The Jer ponder their meaning with Charles Reed, an architect who was given the original plans for its construction in 1980 by the banker who funded it--a complete stranger to Charles.
Why would a stranger give him something so secret? Was it because the whole affair was a well-funded tourist trap? Could it have to do with Charles being an experiencer?
Charles is joined by his daughter, Melissa Reed, the fantastic artist some of you may know as Culture of Contact's art show curator. But thats only the first hour.
In the second hour-plus, The Jeff & The Jer discuss not just the Guidestones but the so-called alien enigma, with its fear and confusion and hints of spirituality. If you've been waiting for the deep "alien" chat that will sock you in the gut, this one is not to be missed!

Feb 25, 2022
Feb 25, 2022
1hr 57 min
Freelance Reporter Harold Egeln's experiences of high strangeness are so varied that it gives even the Jeff & the Jer pause. Through it all he has remained unafraid. We explore some of Harold's experiences and see if we can't figure out how it is that he is able to take it in stride when so many of us are terrified.

Feb 18, 2022
Paratopia 026: Nancy Birnes
Feb 18, 2022
Feb 18, 2022
1hr 51 min
UFO Magazine Editor-In-Chief, Nancy Birnes, speaks out about Col. Phil Corso and Roswell, the public attacks on her husband, Bill Birnes, the pitfalls of keeping UFO Magazine alive in a dying industry, what may be going on with experiencers like Jeff & Jeremy, and a whole lot more. This is a good and honest voice in a field rife with lies, so enjoy.
During the interview, we catch some EVP-type activity coming from Jeff's house. The only thing more paranormal than this is the fact that we keep going with the show as if nothing big just happened!

Feb 11, 2022
Feb 11, 2022
2hr 23 min
George Hansen returns to Paratopia for an in-depth look into marginality and anti-structure, and their relationship to everything from UFOs to ghosts, and those who are involved in the paranormal. This is thought-provoking discussion is not to miss!

Feb 4, 2022
Paratopia 024: Angelia Joiner
Feb 4, 2022
Feb 4, 2022
1hr 29 min
Join The Jeff and The Jer as they talk with the late, great Angelia Joiner of the Stephenville Lights case. Angelia talks of her experiences during the case's onset and aftermath. Her perspective is unique. As a newcomer to the subject, Angelia was thrust into the ufological limelight nearly overnight. What is her view of the UFO community, and how does it effect her search for answers?

Jan 28, 2022
Jan 28, 2022
2hr 14 min
Join The Jeff & The Jer as they welcome Wes Owsley, Ex-NASA SysAdmin for Russia. Wes has long heard talk of a secret space program and is here to educate the UFO and conspiracy communities about the notion. He has a fascinating work history that has taken him deep into the NASA space program where he has met and worked with many astronauts and cosmonauts. Won't you be shocked when you find out what radio show NASA folks are listening to?
Also... from astronauts to psychonauts... Jeremy Vaeni took an unfathomable 10 hour mushroom trip to find out if, as Dr.Rick Strassman, Dr. Dennis McKenna, and Graham Hancok claim, shrooms open you up to other dimensions, not hallucinations, and can produce alien abductions.
What did he find? The answer will definitely surprise you!

Jan 21, 2022
Jan 21, 2022
1hr 21 min

Jan 14, 2022
Paratopia 021: Jeff, Jer, and Crickets
Jan 14, 2022
Jan 14, 2022
1hr 3 min
This week's podcast is rather light due to a technical difficulty beyond our control. Its all sorted, but a bit too late to re-record our interview with our guest. However, we never let our listeners go hungry, so Jeff ate magic mushrooms, Jer read from a book, and crickets ensued.
Back next week with a great guest. We shall never speak of this again.

Jan 7, 2022
Paratopia 020: Jeff‘s Nightmare
Jan 7, 2022
Jan 7, 2022
1hr 45 min
Join The Jeff & The Jer for their 20th episode, a special recap of the past 20 guests and topics, and a special phone call. Jeff and Jeremy quickly learn that, "Where your dreams come alive and control you" is far more than a cheesy catchphrase for a podcast.
Watch your back. Mind the trees.
Did you hear that?

Dec 31, 2021
Paratopia 019: Brandon D
Dec 31, 2021
Dec 31, 2021
1hr 59 min
Brandon D, from our message board, takes us through his shamanic journey on tonight's Paratopia. Brandon traveled to South America to experience ayahuasca, a hallucinogenic brew that contains DMT, under the guidance of a shaman.
Also, The Jeff & The Jer dissect this week's UFO Hunters.
Big show. Big fun! [originally aired: 2009]
