The Jeff and The Jer try to get famed ufologist/nuclear physicist Stanton Friedman interested in... physics. Do they succeed? Find out!

(Hint: No.)

Then, Jeff and Jer are joined by Noosphere podcast co-hosts Erich Kloss & Iso Ban for a roundtable discussion about the Extraterrestrial Hypothesis (ETH) vs. the Great Something Else, consciousness, and related topics. This one dives deep and is not to be missed! [originally aired: 2009]

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